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moxidectin plus

Postby gomer on 06 May 2010, 19:50

Have tried some moxidectin plus .05 ml straight in the crop,on seven trial birds today,one being fledged only two days(The other three fledglings died,not happy) Will let you know how it goes on them.Also have birds in avairy next door approx 12, on wormout 2ml per 160 ml of water for two days.
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Re: moxidectin plus

Postby fincher on 09 May 2010, 23:22

are you refering to wormout gell by i think its vetafarm gomer how did u find mixing it. i personally dont like useing it in waters as never can get a good consistent mix but isnt too bad to crop needle it
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Re: moxidectin plus

Postby gomer on 10 May 2010, 15:10

Yes Chris,I bought A litre of it a few years ago so I am trying to use it up.Your right it takes alot of mixing in the water to mix thoroughly.I would not buy it again for that reason.As i like to use the crop needle,or add direct to bird.
I have had no casaulties on either the wormout or moxidectin plus.
The moxidectin plus direct in the crop @ .05ml worked well on the seven blue goulds I gave it to.
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Re: moxidectin plus

Postby fincher on 10 May 2010, 16:53

adding a bit of warm water first to the gel helps a bit but still is hard enough to get it consisten. mit have to try the moxedectin plus
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Re: moxidectin plus

Postby garymc on 14 May 2010, 01:35

I have tried 0.05ml of moxidectin plus directtly to crop with crop needle - with 100% fatal results - to the birds (about 10minutes its all it took). Have done similarly with avitrol plus (and at times gone 0.1ml) without any harm to the birds. Never had any problems using just the moxidectin (not plus).

Now I alternate between avitrol plus direct by crop needle and moxidectin plus administered in the drinking water - without any dramas.

Concluded that it must be the amount of praziquental (which is for the tapeworms) in the moxidectin plus.

Does getting a dose of of 0.001ml involve diluting the moxidectin plus in water proportionally or is there a trick to getting such a small quantity?
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Re: moxidectin plus

Postby Will_36 on 14 May 2010, 05:53

Have been using moxidectin plus directtly & in water for a year now with no deaths.
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Re: moxidectin plus

Postby gomer on 14 May 2010, 06:26

garymc wrote:I have tried 0.05ml of moxidectin plus directtly to crop with crop needle - with 100% fatal results - to the birds (about 10minutes its all it took). Have done similarly with avitrol plus (and at times gone 0.1ml) without any harm to the birds. Never had any problems using just the moxidectin (not plus).

Now I alternate between avitrol plus direct by crop needle and moxidectin plus administered in the drinking water - without any dramas.

Concluded that it must be the amount of praziquental (which is for the tapeworms) in the moxidectin plus.

Does getting a dose of of 0.001ml involve diluting the moxidectin plus in water proportionally or is there a trick to getting such a small quantity?


I wonder if the birds suffocated as it can be accidentally put into the lungs not the crop,As there is two passage ways in a birds throat,One to the lungs one to the crop.I have seen this happen with crop drenching a few times.On finches Done by myself when leaning,Aswell as parrots.

How many birds gave you a 100% death rate ?
What was the gauge needle used ?

Will try a few more birds soon,to test it more.As posibly different finches may have different reactions to it.
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Re: moxidectin plus

Postby garymc on 14 May 2010, 07:02

Probably lost 3 or 4 birds (which was every single one that cropped) the first time using Moxidectin plus (from memory they were painteds), and the second time using it was a crimson chat. I spoke to Dr Colin Walker about it and he couldn't explain hence I haven't tried it since.

From what I believe it is quite difficult to get the needle down the the "wrong hole" as the osophegus is much smaller than the path to the crop.

Have used the same needles with avitrol plus successfully on probably >500birds over the years including such things as orange cheeks, red-earred firetails, peales parrotfinches etc with no losses.


Interesting thought though - my container of moxidectin plus appears have a "white" residue that settles out and then requires a bit of shaking to get it back into solution. When I put the syringe in I invariably draw from the bottom. Could be something in that because I could not honestly say for certain that I shook the bottle before using it.

What is the quantity of praziquentel in the moxidectin plus that you are using Gomer?
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Re: moxidectin plus

Postby gomer on 15 May 2010, 10:51

The rate of praziquantel on the moxidectin from APC that i bought, Is 18.8 mg/ml. Your right it does look to need a good shake before use.Ithink I read years ago about people using praziquantel for worming finches.I believe it is used in Droncit for dogs.Just did a google on it and it says it can be used on birds and chickens.
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Re: moxidectin plus

Postby BENSONSAN on 15 May 2010, 23:51

ALso prazaquental is used in worm enda plus which works well. And also with milbemycin heartworm and allwormer for dogs. Its interesting hearing what you guys are doing. I just cant catch all my finches to crop erm lol.
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